Freecycle UK - My opinion on the community's future
The UK arm of Freecycle have been arguing. Having been a (silent) member of the Fenland Freecycle Yahoo Group for a while, seeing a couple of moderator messages about a dispute with the Freecycle founders in the US, I thought I'd take a look at the issue and see what I could come up with as a suggestion for the future.
Now, the UK Freecycle community has been noted as carrying the most 'traffic' compared with other countries, and this dispute with the founders may mean that the groups get shut down, or new moderators from America get put in place instead of the current local moderators (Freecycle say they try to only have people local to the community as moderators).
What I wonder is whether we really need a central organisation of all of this. It seems to me, when I look at other similar communities gathered around a global 'aim', they don't rotate around a central core, but rather go their own direction, as with Linux User Groups (LUGs) which have many different forms and functions, some having social meet-ups, others primarily hosting events and talks.
Ultimately the current Freecycle groups (not counting the new MyFreecycle system) are hosted on Yahoo Groups (which I personally don't like), and the Freecycle.org site hosts a list of links to those groups. In theory anyone could do that, the only thing Freecycle.org have got is the name and the press coverage that makes the term well-known. I think we don't have to worry about that too much though, as the groups will float to the top of a localised Google search quite quickly once enough 'hub' sites and local blogs/press start to become aware of each group.
There are several other sites/groups/terms springing up, including GreenCycle, Freegle, RealCycle, ReUseIt and vSkips, among others. These are run in exactly the same way, listing and linking to Yahoo Groups.
What I'd prefer
I don't like Yahoo Groups, they're hard to read (even with Yahoo's effort of threading the conversations), and generally just a 'make do' solution for most communities that don't have the resources to do anything else.
What I suggest is for some web developers (myself included) to 'come to the rescue' by creating an Open Source project for a framework for hosting the things these communities aim to do... share stuff, and be social. The software produced by the Open Source project could then be installed by anyone wanting to host a 'branch' and the community can join in as they have done before, to a more targeted site. The community could then request new features from the developers (or build it themselves and contribute to the project), and after some time everyone will benefit.
The Freecycle Trademark
To get around the current strict monitoring of the Freecycle trademark I would propose a similar solution to the Linux (and other UNIX derivatives) approach of describing themselves as a UNIX-like operating system, by calling describing the groups as Freecycle-like communities, giving full credit to original Freecycle project, and also serving as a disclaimer that should clear any 'confusion' that has been noted on Wikipedia as a reason for some of the trademark disputes.
To be honest, I don't know if this post will help with any decision, and I know it might not read particularly well, but I'd be keen to hear what people think in the comments.



Comments
The interesting thing here is that Freegle has the same core of people who were previously Freecycle UK directors and resigned in disgust. They have the integrity and dedication to make it work. It's also interesting that an open source project such as you describe has also been floated elsewhere. Perhaps an idea whose time is ripe?
I started to develop a tool for managing LUGs... Something that would allow for the groups to be interconnected, even though they were hosted separately (so neighbouring groups would get notices about events, etc). Maybe I should resurrect the idea. Do you know who was had the idea from the other discussion?
But it does have attractions in terms of allowing people to easily host smaller numbers of groups, thereby having to worry less about resilience and performance. And by distributing the hosting, you avoid the problems with centralisation and control which are behind the current UK dispute.
I think it'll be a while before Freegle's ready to embark on this, because we're still finding our feet, but there are already some people who are chomping at the bit.
I don't think it will be a big effort once the main features exist. Of course getting to that point is going to take some effort, but there is no immediate need (Yahoo Groups are still around), so we can just see how we go to begin with.
I echo what has been said about Freeegle being the "main" replacement for Freecycle - however not sure it's even relevant as the software doesn't have to have the same name as the group/organisation?
I think you should remove yourself from the name FREE-gle, FREE-cycle, myFREEcycle altogether, because to me its just confusing. I have no idea which is current, which is now obsolete or are they sill being used, messy messy messy.
I agree with you regards Yahoo being messy, the communities web part is still in the 1980s they've done nothing to it for ages and its desperately in need of a rewrite.
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